Nature_and_Environment.65 - Welcomes and Introductions

yeah, we just got eight inches on wednesday, and by today it was dried out -- and warm -- enough to go bouldering on some nice dry rocks nearby. i still haven't removed the sand-bags from my vehicle.

Where in Colorado do you live, Tom? I grew up in Vermont, and so the San Juans are turning out to truly live up to the dreams and expectations I carried with me when hiking the Green Mountains. Colorado sort of seems like Vermont on steroids. The only real complaint I have so far is the dry weather. Bloody noses, dry skin, red eyes. I've never lived somewhere where water consumption has been so important to daily life.

Hello all, from beautiful SWVa. I'm new here, and have only recentl cultivated (pun deliberate) an intest in sustainable living. I'll admit to being largel ignorant, but willing to learn. Peace be with you. Redhawk

In a perfect world, I'd like to be totally self or community sufficent, but small steps initially, Right now I'm tryng to figure out how to live acar and chain-store freelife. But, like I said I'm just beginning.

Hunter/jumpers. 99% of what we do is cater to a clientele of amateurs. We have mostly teens/young adults, with their own horses, which we train and take to horse shows. We have some adults, too. Fairly often we buy/sell horses for clients, occasionally we take in a sales horse on spec. This is my boy. http://home.comcast.net/~paxamicus/Bobby.html

Hello, I am a former college biology instructor and have taught environmental science courses. I have an MA in Biology although I have not worked in my field for over 20 years. I retain an abiding interest in the subject and continue to read in the field, especially in the areas of the environment.

Hi JonnieBean! think i *saw* you in another forum... Me, checkin out other forums and gettin more involved with our local Mesagreens, Green Party affiliate. also, my daughter found Students for Sensible Energy and StepItUp, http://stepitup2007.org/ promoting a national day of global change on Nov. 3rd. didn't see anything about here, so spread the word! our local events is here at ASU and Papago Park, so maybe YOUR local university may have an event. any other places to check out, both here in the cafe or elsewhere???

Hello everyone and especially Tom! [I know, Tom, you're thinking uh oh, heee's BBBAAAAA-aaack}.

Glenn Allenson is my name and I'm here for this reason: There is a tank farm in front of my town of Brisbane California. Gasoline, Diesel and Jet fuel are pumped here to roughly 20 tanks, then distributed to various locations including SF Airport [by pipeline and truck] and local gasoline vendors, by truck only.

I will paste some photos and info from Currents, if that is ok.

My needs are these: Turns out the pipelines and tanks are owned by Kinder Morgan, morphed from the Devil himself, Enron. The tanks are leaking profusely into our aquifer, which adjoins San Franciso Bay a scant 300 yards to the east.

But the biggest potential problem is that the tanks themselves, the largest four of which have a capacity of 75,000 barrels - more than 3 million gallons each - are old and are sitting on unconsolidated fill. And they are also within 300 yards of both our fire/rescue station and city corporation yards, which are both within twenty yards of the railroad tracks that pass next to the tank farm.

These tracks are at the same elevation as the bottoms of the tanks, and are seperated from the tanks by a containment berm that is only 5 feet high. The tracks' elevation descends toward the fire station/ corpyard and the entrance to the town and the numerous storm drain openings that let our rainwater drainage into the Bay. The tankfarm elevation is about on the same level - ten feet above sea level - as the lowest section of our town, including the industrial park to our north that houses our city hall, again, a mere few hundred yards from the tanks themselves.

So I am writing some articles that hopefully will alert our folks to the potential disaster.

Anyone want to discuss this? The Kinder Morgan Ghost of Enron has bought up 30,000 miles of pipelines in the US and Canada along with tank farms and other infrastructure. These bastards were among the con-artists attending the closed door Cheney energy meetings, according to information from the Environmental Working Group linked through Corpwatch.

At those meetings, a HUGE portion of public lands were handed over to various Bushco supporters, including mining and Gas Petroleum giants such as Exxon Mobil. We are losing our National Parks and forests to these vermin right now. Even the Grand Canyon now has HUNDREDS of mining claims based upon these land/ resource giveaways.

Gotta go pound nails into parts of trees raped from California's once great redwood and fir trees. bleeagh.

But it is all I can do to pay rent.

Peace!!

I wrote a 'thank you Tonu' from an internet station two daze ago and I'm surprised it didn't post, so let me try from this again. Thanx Tonu, but I gotta say, you've thrown a wrench into the ol' 'slower than molasses' quip. 35 mph is faster than most folks can handle, which certainly resulted in a sad end for many of those victims. Now, can I start a topic for this issue or should I just link to the posts in currents? The idea I have is to paste the relevant posts in an order that leaves out the less useful posts, which [no surprise] are mostly mine. Hello Tom? I shall email now. Thanx in advance.

Tonu That relates well to the sugar factory explosion last week. I haven't seen any details. My bet is that it was sugar dust hitting an ignition source. (most folks don't think of sugar as being a flammable hydrocarbon). I have even heard of folks trying to put out grease fires by throwing in sugar, with disastrous results. Water, flour are also bad news. Salt does work.

Thatdidit. I'm dismantling my gas-powered sugar-molasses and honey whiskey still right now. Riv, great news I believe. A meeting has now been scheduled for the 21st of Feb. More on this in currents. I had not realized this forum was becoming deserted. I'm off to scout for some enviro-blogs elsewhere. Back soon. G.

Any reason to not just continue what you are doing in Politics and link to all the other resources? You "own" that topic, as far as I am concerned, meaning that you can link to or post anything you like in there. I don't go to currents anymore (time issue more than anything else. Anything in there that you want me to see, please post a link in "your" Politics topic. How did you find out that this topic was being closed?