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{Photography.77.1}: Coyote {coyote} Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:51:48 EST (70 lines)

Below are some comments taken from the Digitally Altered topic, which
provide a good starting point for this discussion.

{Photography.21.678}: Paddrick Mackin {paddrick} Fri, 17 Dec 2004
17:47:00 PST (4 lines)

Does anyone have Corel Painter?  It is an expensive piece of software
at about $400.  I received an email with a holiday offer to purchase
at 50% discount.  I use Jasc Virtual Painter, but would enjoy the
extra sophistication of the Corel Painter.


{Photography.21.679}: Jenny Reiswig {jreiswig} Fri, 17 Dec 2004
21:59:26 PST (10 lines)

I have it and have been using it for a couple of versions now.   Does
Virtual Painter support pressure-sensitive digitizing tablets?  Using
Painter with a tablet/pen combo is a really great experience.  The way
they describe it as "natural" media is quite apt.  You don't have the
tactile feedback of the texture of the materials you're working with,
but you also don't feel any inhibition about playing or experimenting
with expensive art supplies. If you don't like the result, zap! Gone!
It does have quite a bit of a learning curve - I recommend getting the
Painter WOW! book as an accompaniment to the manual.  But I think it's
a great program.


{Photography.21.680}: William {anneal} Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:31:59 PST
(9 lines)

Yes, I agree with Jenny,  the WOW! book is a great help and Corel
offers a Demo version that is good for 30 days, 'nuff time to see if
you like it.

It is not an easy or intuitive program, unless you have been doing
alot of this kind of stuff.

Jenny had a really neat flower picture she did in here, but I can't
find it anymore.


{Photography.21.681}: Rich Mason {richpix} Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:46:48
PST (HTML)

I have an older version of Painter that I bought bundled with, if
memory serves correctly, Photoshop 4 back when I was a student. I
think I paid $350 for both-- full versions, no less.

If anyone owns or is looking to buy a graphics tablet, Wacom is
offering a deal on the latest version of Painter to owners of their
Intuos tablets: Wacom/ Painter

I used to play with Painter from time to time, but the learning curve
on version 3 was quite steep. It plays nicely with Photoshop, but
Photoshop was much easier for me to learn. I don't know how later
itterations of Painter are, but with v3 I spent more time consulting
the huge manual than I ever did using the software.


{Photography.21.682}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Sat, 18 Dec 2004
06:22:41 PST (16 lines)

..... That said - I will try to respond to Coyote.  How did I do that
in {Photography.21.676}?  The picture was taken indoors at the Cape
May Bird show without a flash.  So it was kind of blurry anyway.

I'm going to go look at the photo and see if I can remember.  I'll
post the original too.  I use paint shop pro - which I love.  I bought
some plugins for it - called virtual painter.  Virtual painter is a
good way to make something out of otherwise unusable shots.

{Photography.77.2}: Paddrick Mackin {paddrick} Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:02:05 EST (8 lines)

Thanks Coyote for starting this new topic.  I'm not sure how many
software photos we are going to get posted.  Would adding the
word "chat" to the name of a topic which is likely to be more chat be
helpful?  And what about adding the pharse "photos/images" to the
names of those topics which are more likely to be image topics?  That
would be of help to members like myself who need to be constrained
from time to time.  I'm an Aquarius; a free air spirit who often does
not see boundaries :-)>

{Photography.77.3}: Coyote {coyote} Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:10:21 EST (20 lines)

"I'm not sure how many software photos we are going to get posted."

Hahahaha! I added "Discussion" to the topic name. And here's an
excerpt from your post in the General Discussion topic, which might
spark some discussion in *this* topic:

{Photography.55.324}: Paddrick Mackin {paddrick} Sat, 18 Dec 2004
10:46:15 PST (26 lines)

.....Thanks to all who provided me with information about Corel
Painter, and especially the reference to the Wacom tablet.  I found a
Graphire3 6x8 inch USB tablet (with the software bundle) at
Bestbuy.com for $199.99.  That is an attractive price for the package.

I have Jasc*s (now Corel) Virtual Painter 4, but I want more control
over the imaging of parts of the image than I can achieve with Virtual
Painter which applies a selected effect to the entire image.

I*ve been inspired to delve into art photography by Sheri at:
http://www.pbase.com/shariwb/galleries

{Photography.77.4}: Coyote {coyote} Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:32:44 EST (17 lines)

And another from TJ:

{Photography.55.325}: T.J. McGovern {tj2} Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:56:55 PST
(12 lines)

I just deleted Painter IX from my machine after a thirty day trial. I
would love to be able to master it, but there are other priorities for
me right now. There is a market for turning photos into oil painting
look-alikes, and I would like to get in on that. I have tried Painter
two or three times now, and just can't get the hang of it. When I
retire in a few years, I will take it on again. The oil strokes are
very realistic, but I think that to fully utilize the potential, you
really need to study painting.

There is also Deep Paint, which I tried for a while, and seems to work
pretty well, but I had the same problem of not having time to devote
to it.

{Photography.77.5}: imho {anneal} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:50:00 EST (HTML)

{Photography.77.6}: {tj2} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:09:54 EST (0 lines)
{erased by tj2 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:31:05 EDT}

{Photography.77.7}: William {anneal} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:59:50 EST (9 lines)

Yeah, I know what you mean, I got final Cut Pro, thinking I would go
up a level in video editing, and bought the manuals and everything,
but it it to much for me to learn at this time so it too is on the
back burner.

I have done most of my stuff with painter 5 and have painter 5 WOW!,
but the new interface of Painter is harder for me to navigate using
the old book, I still use 5 more than 8, but am getting better at the
newer one.

{Photography.77.8}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:06:53 EST (9 lines)

Paddrick - you got me thinking about using Virtual painter on parts
of a pciture.  I'd never thought to do it until I read your post.
So yesterday I started experimenting.  I used the magic wand along
with the shift key and selected multiplce parts of a photo and then
applied one of the vp filters to it.  Then selected a different part
of the photo and applied a different filter.  I've only done a
couple but I can post in the digital photos topic and show you what
I mean.  That way I was able to use water color for part of the
photo and oil for another part.

{Photography.77.9}: Jak King {jakking} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:12:48 EST (2 lines)

This can be achieved easily enough in Photoshop alone.  But I don';t
know whether the stroke control in VP is better,  I'm guessing so.

{Photography.77.10}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:14:00 EST (1 line)

Virtual painter is just filters.

{Photography.77.11}: Jak King {jakking} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:17:23 EST (1 line)

ahhhhh   thanks

{Photography.77.12}: Paddrick Mackin {paddrick} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:05:49 EST (4 lines)

Thanks Diane for 77.8.  I'll have to play with that myself.  I would
stay with watercolor, but select different parts of the image to
adjust the watercolor settings for them.  I look forward to viewing
your experiments.

{Photography.77.13}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:08:07 EST (9 lines)

I use paintshop pro.  Today I explored the web looking for new
plugins for it and I downloaded some freebies as well as some
demos.  I got both at http://www.thepluginsite.com
I bought their Plugin Galaxy - "a set of 21 Photoshop-compatible
plugins containing 159 impressive and professional effects."


Here's another plugin site http://photoshop.msk.ru/as/index.html -
the simplifier filter is free and I like it a lot.

{Photography.77.14}: Mark Smith {mjsmith403} Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:50:32 EST (12 lines)

Hey Coyote,
When you say a market for photos with a paint effect you are sooo right.
I ran into a shop in Cape May.....Diane you might know of it.....anyway the
pictures in the shop are great pics of Cape May done with a paint effect. The
artist trained with the Wyeths in the style that is known as the Brandywine
school of art. His work is really nice and seeing as though my wife and I
bought a few pieces it also sells.
Diane...can you help? I was trying to look up the artist recently and cannot find
his site. If the shop is still there(in the street with all of the tourist shops) could
you please email me the artists name and URL. I would really appreciate it
and maybe we could share the URL with Coyote
Mark

{Photography.77.15}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:21:26 EST (1 line)

Isn't the artist's name on the pieces you bought, Mark?

{Photography.77.16}: Rich Mason {richpix} Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:29:41 EST (2 lines)

Good point, Diane.  Look on the back of the piece and the artist's
name and information should be there.

{Photography.77.17}: Mark Smith {mjsmith403} Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:00:15 EST (8 lines)

Sorry folks Thanks but although it is there it isn't legible. I have his card
somewhere as well as I spoke to him about a business propisition a while
ago. I have the receipt as well but it is a standard receipt book type with no
store name on it. Oh well....I was hoping that Diane you might be familar with
the store. The artist took many shots around Cape May beaches, lighthouse,
Victorian houses etc. and then did his thing with the painterly effects. They
really look great some even remind you of a Wyeth.
Thanks again folks and Happy Holidays

{Photography.77.18}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:08:46 EST (3 lines)

Mark - if I run across the store, I will inquire.  I don't live in
the city of Cape May but next time I'm down there I will look
around.

{Photography.77.19}: Mark Smith {mjsmith403} Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:08:45 EST (6 lines)

Thanks Diane,
It is right off the main tourist mall street on one of the little cross streets.
I am sure I will come up with the guys contact info but with the holidays I
haven't been able to give it a good search.
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays.....pick one
Mark

{Photography.77.20}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:05:21 EST (1 line)

I'll take both, thanks.

{Photography.77.21}: Karen Iwamoto {kai28} Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:21:40 EST (12 lines)

has anyone ever tried to use GIMP? its a photoshop-type thing
(although more limited, i'm sure)- but its free, open source software.
i just downloaded it this morning (my husband has played with it in
the past), and it at least seems to work fairly well, at least for my
level of inexperience. I like things that i can muddle through and
figure out, and this seems to work for me.

i'm just wondering if anyone else has tried it/heard about it in the
past, and knows of its drawbacks (it must have some, i'm sure-
otherwise no one would BUY software). i'm not about to go out and
shell out the money for photoshop (after i just shelled out all the
money for the Dig. SLR). not yet. not that desperate.

{Photography.77.22}: Jak King {jakking} Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:29:44 EST (2 lines)

I have never tried it, but several of the photographers I meet on pro
sites swear by the Gimp.

{Photography.77.23}: Karen Iwamoto {kai28} Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:11:41 EST (2 lines)

huh. well thats good news, thanks. i guess i'll keep playing with it
then...

{Photography.77.24}: David {david} Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:10:14 EST (3 lines)

If it's free, Karen, give us the website.  Or the address where we
can get it.  Sorry, I'm thinking of Pulp Fiction--"Bring out the
GIMP!"

{Photography.77.25}: Doug White {dwhite} Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:23:29 EST (1 line)

www.gimp.org

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