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{Nature_and_Environment.109.8}: John Wilson {doorman} Sat, 04 Jun 2011 11:00:45 EDT (6 lines)
I am extremely gratified to see Colleen engaged in this topic. This is of major concern to us all. We are rapidly poisoning this planet so that only those who possess the ability to filter air and water will be able to survive the degradation we are headed to. It is so fucking stupid! And for the most part we all capitulate.
{Nature_and_Environment.109.9}: Colleen Nelson {cole2u} Sat, 04 Jun 2011 11:30:44 EDT (HTML)
We can't ignore our own culpablity at every level. There is no us and them any more - if there ever was.
One of the parts I'm doing is to join the Izaak Walton League and be trained to test the waters in head water streams for source point pollution. And to report it and do follw up to make sure the polluters are identified. What the marcellus gas industry was allowed to do legally and sometimes illegally in Colorado only went under the radar because of population scarcity and political pressure that industry can put on the government.
Here on the east coast, any move they make has the potential to be a deadly blight on whole water sheds that feed millions.
They've been working in isolated pockets of PA an WV but the people are becoming savvy to their actions and not giving out information on thier part is no longer possible. The information is out there about the dangers. Every misstep on industry's part is toxic. They have the technology to be clean. But it's cheaper to cut corners.
You can't cut corners when it comes to the air we breathe and the water that sustains us.
This is the battle to produce clean energy that it's worth putting activist energy into.
People can't make a difference individually the way they can collectively but it takes individuals choosing to do something to make it happen.
{Nature_and_Environment.109.10}: John Wilson {doorman} Sat, 04 Jun 2011 11:45:27 EDT (1 line)
Agree totally.
{Nature_and_Environment.109.11}: Nancy Davison {nmdavison} Sat, 04 Jun 2011 19:13:57 EDT (13 lines)
I was listening to an interview concerning fracking (?) the other day, and there was a lot of interest in it, people calling in telling stories of how the natural gas companies tell them it doesn't matter if they sign a release, they're going to just drill on their neighbor's land and access the noncompliant folk's land that way. There was lots of talk of the damage to the underground water table and so on. When they interviewed the spokesman for the natural gas company, his excuse was that we need the gas and so that's all there is to it. Duh! I'd say we need water a lot more than we need natural gas. That show really sensitized me to the situation, and I will be paying lots more attention from now on.
{Nature_and_Environment.109.12}: Colleen Nelson {cole2u} Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:17:19 EDT (HTML)
Hydraulic Fracturing FAQs
How does hydraulic fracturing work?
Hydraulic fracturing or fracking is a means of natural gas extraction employed in deep natural gas well drilling. Once a well is drilled, millions of gallons of water, sand and proprietary chemicals are injected, under high pressure, into a well. The pressure fractures the shale and props open fissures that enable natural gas to flow more freely out of the well.
What is horizontal hydraulic fracturing?
Horizontal hydrofracking is a means of tapping shale deposits containing natural gas that were previously inaccessible by conventional drilling. Vertical hydrofracking is used to extend the life of an existing well once its productivity starts to run out, sort of a last resort. Horizontal fracking differs in that it uses a mixture of 596 chemicals, many of them proprietary, and millions of gallons of water per frack. This water then becomes contaminated and must be cleaned and disposed of.
What is the Halliburton Loophole?
In 2005, the Bush/ Cheney Energy Bill exempted natural gas drilling from the Safe Drinking Water Act. It exempts companies from disclosing the chemicals used during hydraulic fracturing. Essentially, the provision took the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) off the job. It is now commonly referred to as the Halliburton Loophole.
What is the Safe Drinking Water Act?
In 1974, the Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) was passed by Congress to ensure clean drinking water free from both natural and man-made contaminates.
What is the FRAC Act?
The FRAC Act (Fracturing Responsibility and Awareness to Chemical Act) is a House bill intended to repeal the Halliburton Loophole and to require the natural gas industry to disclose the chemicals they use.
How deep do natural gas wells go?
The average well is up to 8,000 feet deep. The depth of drinking water aquifers is about 1,000 feet. The problems typically stem from poor cement well casings that leak natural gas as well as fracking fluid into water wells.
How much water is used during the fracking process?
Generally 1-8 million gallons of water may be used to frack a well. A well may be fracked up to 18 times.
What fluids are used in the fracking process?
For each frack, 80-300 tons of chemicals may be used. Presently, the natural gas industry does not have to disclose the chemicals used, but scientists have identified volatile organic compounds (VOCs) such as benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene and xylene.
In what form does the natural gas come out of the well?
The gas comes up wet in produced water and has to be separated from the wastewater on the surface. Only 30-50% of the water is typically recovered from a well. This wastewater can be highly toxic.
What is done with the wastewater?
Evaporators evaporate off VOCs and condensate tanks steam off VOCs, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The wastewater is then trucked to water treatment facilities.
What is a well's potential to cause air pollution?
As the VOCs are evaporated and come into contact with diesel exhaust
from trucks and generators at the well site, ground level ozone is
produced. Ozone plumes can travel up to 250 miles.
{Nature_and_Environment.109.13}: We'll be there...... {cole2u} Fri, 10 Jun 2011 23:09:25 EDT (119 lines)
"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/10/gas-lobby-bribery-public- meeting_n_874903.html" Environmental and citizen groups, already concerned about the makeup of a federal subcommittee formed last month to make recommendations for improving the safety of natural gas exploration, were buzzing Friday morning with the disclosure of an email from an industry lobby that appeared designed to lure supporters of natural gas drilling to a forthcoming public meeting with promises of hotel rooms and baseball tickets. An industry spokesman defended providing for travel and accommodations, but said the offer of baseball tickets had been withdrawn. "No one's getting paid anything, let's start there," said Chris Tucker, a spokesman for oil and gas lobby group Energy in Depth, in an email to HuffPost. "What we're trying to do is provide an opportunity for folks to participate in a federal forum on best practices in shale development, especially those who might not otherwise have the means or ability to get to it themselves." The emailed offer appears to have been sent to undisclosed recipients by Thomas Shepstone, head of Shepstone Management Company, an environmental, land use and zoning consultancy based in Honesdale, Pa. Shepstone is also listed as the campaign manager of something called the Northeast Marcellus Initiative, a new effort launched in April that serves, according to the group's website, as "the eyes and ears (as well as arms, legs and heart)" of Energy in Depth in the Marcellus Shale. That formation is a vast area of potentially copious natural gas yields underlying parts of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio and New York. Energy in Depth is the broader coalition of oil and gas producers that has largely spearheaded the campaign to defend and support natural gas exploration against charges that its practices -- particularly the use of hydraulic fracturing -- are a risk to public health and the environment. The federal panel, and the public meeting in Pennsylvania slated for next Monday, are part of several ongoing efforts to get to the bottom of that question. Shepstone apparently wanted to make sure that supporters of natural gas drilling in the Marcellus were well represented at the June 13 meeting. His email message follows: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Department of Energy Meeting on Hydraulic Fracturing Date:*Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:11:46 -0400 From:*Thomas Shepstone To:*Undisclosed-recipients: There is an extremely important meeting coming up this Monday and we need folks to attend. Here is the essential background, folks: Department of Energy to Host Secretary of Energy Advisory Board Natural Gas Subcommittee Meeting Washington, DC On Monday, June 13, 2011, the U.S. Department of Energy will host a public meeting of the Secretary of Energy Advisory Board (SEAB) Natural Gas Subcommittee at Washington & Jefferson College in Washington, Pa. The meeting will allow subcommittee members to hear directly from community members interested in the safety and environmental performance of hydraulic fracturing. WHAT: Secretary of Energy Advisory Board Natural Gas Subcommittee Meeting WHEN: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:00 PM 9:00 PM WHERE: Washington Jefferson College Olin Fine Arts Center East Wheeling Street Washington, PA More information about the public meeting and the subcommittee can be obtained by visiting www.shalegas.energy.gov. Obviously, even though it's short notice and a long ways off (we just learned about it ourselves) this is an extremely important event. We need as many of you from our region there as possible under the circumstances. Given the short notice and the distance, we are prepared to help make this happen. We can offer the following incentives to attend: 1. Bus transportation (we'll try to set something up with pickups in maybe Binghamton, Scranton and the Williamsport area and provide the details when you let us know of your interest). 2. A hotel room for the night of June 13th. 3. Your meals. 4. Tickets for the Pittsburgh Pirates game (theyre playing the Mets that night) 5. Airfare (for older folks, especially..and for heads of landowner groups) If you can do this, please let me know by return e-mail ASAP and we'll get back to you with the details once we know how many are willing to go. Natural gas critics found the promise of swag to be scandalous, with the Delaware Riverkeeper Network going so far as to forward the email to the Department of Energy with comments. But Tucker said that the outrage was much ado about nothing. "It's exactly what the opposition does for every single local township meeting anytime one's held anywhere across the entire mid-Atlantic region," the Energy in Depth spokesman wrote. "Difference is, we're not busing people in for a local township meeting. This is a public forum sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy. Our folks have the right to be there, and if we have any say in the matter, they will be." A short time later, Tucker reached out again to add that the baseball game had been nixed. "After giving it some serious thought," he said, "we came to the realization that no one should have to watch baseball of that quality."
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