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Fuel efficiency

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{Wheels.16.123}: McKenzie K. Musick {mckenzie} Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:10:22 EDT (2 lines)

Yes and the K-car cemented ugly. But I too like Chrysler. Maybe
because my folks owned Plymouths and Chryslers.

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{Wheels.16.124}: McKenzie K. Musick {mckenzie} Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:17:44 EDT (4 lines)

Jil  thanks for the viddie, I hadn't looked at it when I posted above.
I'd say Chrysler has just leaped right past GM. I love the little
Dodge. But in these parts the Jeep will be a big hit. The Minivan
should score high everywhere.

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{Wheels.16.125}: McKenzie K. Musick {mckenzie} Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:29:00 EDT (7 lines)

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/09/chryslers-shock.html

Chrysler's Shocking Promise: An EV By 2010
By Chuck Squatriglia EmailSeptember 23, 2008 | 1:21:09 PM

This is a follow up to Jil's post earlier. This one from Wired
magazine. I posted a photo in the photos topic.

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{Wheels.16.126}: Jack Van Gossen {lowjack} Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:57:51 EDT (6 lines)

150-200 miles on electric -only? That's pretty impressive. Especially
given the Volt's short 40-mile range. That makes the Dodge EV a true
commuter for large metro areas where one-way drives can be in excess
of 60 miles. It also beats the crap out of several contenders for the
automotive X prize, who haven't even beat the 100-mile mark without
going hybrid.

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{Wheels.16.127}: Jil {rabbit} Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:53:28 EDT (2 lines)

If they can match that 200 miles with an extended range gas engine,
it's a winner. You need the backup that doesn't need a plug.

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{Wheels.16.128}: T.J. McGovern {tj2} Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:21:25 EDT (4 lines)

I probably won't live long enough to be able to drive a real EV with
a practical range and an affordable price. I wonder how many old guys
got the same feeling when the first cars were showing up, and all they
could afford was the mule...

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{Wheels.16.129}: McKenzie K. Musick {mckenzie} Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:38:32 EDT (2 lines)

Come on T.J. you aren't that old. Good God Man I'll come and get you
and we can go to the big city of Phoenix and rent one in about a year.

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{Wheels.16.130}: T.J. McGovern {tj2} Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:56:18 EDT (4 lines)

I don't want to rent one. (I don't really want to go to Phoenix
either, except maybe for a couple of cactus league games.) I want one
for under $20 thou that has air and a GPS, and enough range to get me
to Flag and back at 75 MPH.

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{Wheels.16.131}: Doug White {dwhite} Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:32:38 EDT (1 line)

And he wants a pony.  :)

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{Wheels.16.132}: McKenzie K. Musick {mckenzie} Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:14:50 EDT (5 lines)

You don't no freakin GPS to get to Flag. And furthermore what cost
$20K last year will cost $30K next as our dollars buying power
shrinks. So get on up to Holbrook and wave at the world roaring by on
I-40 then turn around with firm knowledge that it ain't worth the
effort. You are gettin old. Snap out of it.

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{Wheels.16.133}: T.J. McGovern {tj2} Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:56:12 EDT (9 lines)

I want a pony! But unfortunately, the CCRs say I can't have one. I
could board it with a neighbor who has three horses (Our CCRs don't
apply to her)but I don't want the expense either. I guess I don't want
a pony after all.

The GPS isn't to get to Flagstaff, its to find the Target once I'm
there. I know, Flag is all on one road and all I have to do is drive
back and forth until I see it, but I just love to hear "You have
reached your destination."

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{Wheels.16.134}: McKenzie K. Musick {mckenzie} Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:43:46 EDT (11 lines)

ha hah my sister in law driving a rented car with GPS was routed into
a culdesac and got that message "You have reached your destination."

I gotten to where I don't want a motorcycle either...the insurance on
mine is about 450 a year. For some reason ( price of gas ) I just
couldn't make myself go on rides just for the fun of it. I doubt If I
rode 500 miles so far this year. $1 a mile just for insurance.

A pony might cost about the same what with room, board and vet bills.

I think I'll shoot my motorcycle.

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{Wheels.16.135}: T.J. McGovern {tj2} Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:04:21 EDT (1 line)

Is it suffering?

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{Wheels.16.136}: Glen Marks {wotan} Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:43:38 EST (4 lines)

- Most of American life consists of driving somewhere and then
returning home, wondering why the hell you went.

John Updike (1932-2009)

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{Wheels.16.137}: Jil {rabbit} Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:23:43 EST (1 line)

Updike obviously didn't own a cool car.

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{Wheels.16.138}: Alex {alex} Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:28:21 EST (HTML)

I just upped my fuel efficiency (compared to my gas guzzling Dodge Ram 2500) with the purchase of a 2003 Pontiac Vibe. As far as little econoboxes go, it's remarkably peppy, very spacious, and kinda cool looking. And, best of all, it's basically a Toyota.

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{Wheels.16.139}: Jil {rabbit} Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:32:17 EST (1 line)

They're decent little vehicles. It's a Corolla under the skin.

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{Wheels.16.140}: Glen Marks {wotan} Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:12:17 EST (7 lines)

Does my gas buying strategy make sense?:

- When I think that prices are going up, I fill up the tank thinking
that it will cost more in the future,

- When I think that prices are going down, I don't fill up the tank
thinking that it will cost less in the future.

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{Wheels.16.141}: 92 SVX, 59 TBird, 68 F250 {fvehafric} Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:10:02 EST (3 lines)

If you add up all the savings you accumulate during the year you could
probably save more money by skipping two meals at a fast food
restaurant that same year.

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{Wheels.16.142}: Allen {greenal} Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:14:11 EST (HTML)

How about "dollar averaging"?

When you need gas, never fill up, but always spend the same number of dollars. When gas is cheap, you'll be buying more, and when it's expensive, you'll be buying less.

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{Wheels.16.143}: Jil {rabbit} Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:42:00 EST (5 lines)

A full tank of gas also uses more fuel to move around, ironically
enough.

Glen, your strategy is simply the gasoline version of playing the
stock market. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

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{Wheels.16.144}: Brian Stinson {lukewarm} Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:19:05 EDT (HTML)

This subject has probably been discussed in detail somewhere in these threads, nevertheless, since I have not been reading the this forum and I am increasingly getting lazy here I go. Acetone in the fuel phenomena. I haven't tried it, however I am skeptical that acetone being used in the fuel will harm the engine since the concentration is less than 500 to 1. I would think you could add just about anything to the gas at that concentration and it probably wouldn't do much harm or good. Proofs in the pudding. Does anyone have any experience with this idea. Thanks for any information.

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{Wheels.16.145}: Jil {rabbit} Sat, 13 Apr 2013 07:37:33 EDT (2 lines)

It doesn't do anything. I don't have the info at my fingertips, but
it's just another in a long line of fuel fixes that don't work.

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{Wheels.16.146}: Glen Marks {wotan} Tue, 23 Apr 2013 04:59:45 EDT (4 lines)

Recent article on saving gas:

"http://www.marketwatch.com/story/7-tips-to-keep-your-cars-gas-bill-
down-2013-04-23?link=MW_story_popular"

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{Wheels.16.147}: Ted Hurst {thurst} Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:09:14 EDT (HTML)

Good information!

For those that are seriously interested I would suggest this forum...

http://www.cleanmpg.com/

So far I just lurk and learn. I did buy a Scan Gauge II to play with and observe the effect of my foot on the pedal around town.

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