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{Nature_and_Environment.10.29}: Tom Elliot {telliot} Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:17:53 EDT (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.30}: Tonu Aun {tonu} Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:22:35 EDT (3 lines)

Hi Tom! Also have to add that the enviromental studies of the impact
have mainly been discouraging. The tradeoff *might* be acceptable but
there is considerable impact.

{Nature_and_Environment.10.31}: Tom Elliot {telliot} Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:24:08 EDT (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.32}: Tonu Aun {tonu} Mon, 04 Apr 2005 20:24:23 EDT (2 lines)

Solar, no disagreement here --- that's why the * --- on balance going
tidal and wave seems preferable IMO to current practice if we are careful.

{Nature_and_Environment.10.33}: ... {wren1111} Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:51:57 EDT (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.34}: ... {wren1111} Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:12:32 EDT (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.35}: Karen Iwamoto {kai28} Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:36:29 EDT (10 lines)

we recently moved to central Massachusetts (ok, 6 months ago now...i
have to stop saying that) & found out an oil co-op that supplies a
bio-diesel blend for home heating fuel. They have to blend it since at
lower temperatures (i don't rememeber how low), bio-diesel apparently
congeals. but the pricing is competetive with, if not cheaped that,
regualr #2 fuel oil (home heating fuel).

http://www.massenergy.com/MECA_BIOIL/index.htm

its not a great solution, but its a start

{Nature_and_Environment.10.36}: James River Martin {rivertree} Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:48:41 EDT (3 lines)

Not our ass phalt.

http://www.bikeforest.com/catastrophic_climate_change.jpg

{Nature_and_Environment.10.37}: ... {wren1111} Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:59:03 EDT (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.38}: Tom Elliot {telliot} Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:43:12 EDT (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.39}: {bshmr} Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:51:41 EDT (8 lines)

>"I thought the wheel could be made to do something useful so I
connected a system of gears and a turbine," he said. >

Based on the above quote, the student might be a problem. Alternator
&  generator would be typical terms for spinning thingies *g* which
produce electricity. Turbine, as a term, denotes a bladed, wind-screw
type of device explained by fluid dyanmics and the like, not magnetism
or EMF. OTTOMH, that is.

{Nature_and_Environment.10.40}: Tonu Aun {tonu} Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:36:55 EDT (1 line)

Yup, bshmr -- that might be the reason for the gentlemans' "C". :-)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.41}: Helge Hafstad {hhaf} Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:14:42 EDT (6 lines)

The idea was excellent though! Think of all the energy being wasted
around the (western) world in gyms where all kinds of exercise
machines could be set to produce electricity...

"Get you body in shape - create some current tonight!"
:D

{Nature_and_Environment.10.42}: James River Martin {rivertree} Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:25:09 EDT (1 line)

This looks good. http://www.localenergy.org/index.html

{Nature_and_Environment.10.43}: Richard Witty {gisland} Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:31:24 EDT (1 line)

Don't you live in Santa Fe James?

{Nature_and_Environment.10.44}: James River Martin {rivertree} Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:32:02 EDT (9 lines)

Yup. I have talked with Mark Sardella, Executive Director of Local
Energy, a while back ... when he was working with Southwest Energy
Institute. More recently, I've been trying to connect with him by
phone, but the result is a game of phone tag, so far.

Unfortunately, it isn't easy in SF to achieve a quick comprehensive
overview of what's going on in SF regards "sustainability" matters
and organizations. So I could live here and not learn of Local Energy
until days ago.

{Nature_and_Environment.10.45}: James River Martin {rivertree} Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:00:03 EDT (5 lines)

"The End of Oil : On the Edge of a Perilous New World"

by Paul Roberts.

{Currents.893.2874}

{Nature_and_Environment.10.46}: James River Martin {rivertree} Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:01:53 EDT (1 line)

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{Nature_and_Environment.10.47}: Try Grass {bshmr} Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:14:09 EST (10 lines)

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/March05/grass.fuel.ssl.html

Don't let grass grow under your feet -- burn it as economical,
environmentally friendly biofuel, Cornell expert urges

ITHACA, N.Y. -- Grow grass, not for fun but for fuel. Burning grass
for energy has been a well-accepted technology in Europe for decades.
But not in the United States.

...

{Nature_and_Environment.10.48}: ... {wren1111} Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:39:54 EST (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.49}: Tom Elliot {telliot} Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:44:02 EST (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.50}: ... {wren1111} Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:07:23 EST (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.51}: ... {wren1111} Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:29:16 EST (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.52}: Tom Elliot {telliot} Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:37:34 EST (HTML)

{Nature_and_Environment.10.53}: ... {wren1111} Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:30:54 EST (HTML)

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