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Remember The Poor

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{Politics.143.1082}: Senator Lampoon {yesdeer} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:27:00 EDT (HTML)

Liberals don't accept the failure of their failed policies.

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{Politics.143.1083}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:48:48 EDT (2 lines)

You mean like when the economy failed in 2007?   Or Iraq?  Or
bajillion other things?

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{Politics.143.1084}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:50:41 EDT (5 lines)

Can you name one policy under Obama that has not failed?

And you do realize we won the Iraq war and the failed economy dates
back to your buddies at Fanny and Freddy, right? Or was that before
your time?

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{Politics.143.1085}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 13:15:43 EDT (9 lines)

Clinton gave Bush 1 a budget surplus.  2 years later we were back in
the hole again.

Won the Iraq war?  Oh that's right - Obama killed Bin Laden.

The most direct cause of the failed economy goes back to the repeal of
Glass-Steagall, the depression era laws designed to prevent happening
exactly what happened.   Republicans wrote it, demanded it, and got
their way.

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{Politics.143.1086}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:13:23 EDT (1 line)

So you can't name one policy of Obama's that has succeeded.

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{Politics.143.1087}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:15:37 EDT (8 lines)

Obamacare?  Succeeded.

Stimulus?  Depression averted, though the Republican insisted tax cuts
certainly didn't help.

The fact is that conservatives have demonstrated repeatedly that they
aren't fit to govern a sock drawer, let alone a country.  Obama is a
hundred times the statesman they have been or ever will be.

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{Politics.143.1088}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:20:01 EDT (11 lines)

LOL - let's see, Obamacare is the biggest failure in the history of
this country.  In June, it will be gone.  Under the stimulus, every
job created cost the taxpayer $274k.  Even Obama admitted it didn't work

Obama is a lot closer to a traitor than a statesman, but hey he reads
a teleprompter (full of lies) really well.  And you believe him, which
is a success I guess.

Is that really all you've got?

So Ken, are you on Obamacare?

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{Politics.143.1089}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:27:31 EDT (2 lines)

Liz - this information that you get from Koch funded right-wing
nut-bag web sites ISN'T actually information.  You do know that - right?

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{Politics.143.1090}: Liez Detector {marc_dc} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:42:00 EDT (3 lines)

{Politics.143.1088}

Now that is funny in its absurdity and irrationality!

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{Politics.143.1091}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 14:42:50 EDT (1 line)

Talking to Liz is like shouting at a brick wall - and just as effective.

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{Politics.143.1092}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:29:04 EDT (4 lines)

Well then stop doing it Ken.

But before you do, can you tell me the names of the "right wing Koch
websites" so I can avoid them.  Thanks

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{Politics.143.1093}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:32:54 EDT (13 lines)

NO.  I don't frequent them, but they are legion.

Usually I have some right-wing nut point to one as a 'reference'.  I
duly go there and am ASTOUNDED at what conservatives accept as 'facts'.

Like that Obamacare will be ending in June.  ROFL!

Basically, they conservatives just want someone to agree with their
forgone conclusions, and right-wing billionaires have quite an
industry set up feeding that hunger.

This is how the minority - conservatives - continue to have such an
influence on politics.

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{Politics.143.1094}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:36:00 EDT (2 lines)

If they are legion, you should at least know some of their names.  So
I'm assuming none exist.  Thanks for confirming that.

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{Politics.143.1095}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:37:22 EDT (5 lines)

No Liz, I don't have to know any of their names, nor do I have to run
off on a wild goose chase for your jollies.

They exist, but you are free to deny what you know good and well is a
fact, because that is what conservatives do.

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{Politics.143.1096}: Senator Lampoon {yesdeer} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:57:51 EDT (HTML)

>Clinton gave Bush 1 a budget surplus. 2 years later we were back in the hole again.<

Budgets aren't the same as the deficit. Budgets lie, deficits don't.

Think of lying budgets as liberals and the deficit as conservatives. You'll get the true picture.

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{Politics.143.1097}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:59:36 EDT (1 line)

They don't exist and you have confirmed that.

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{Politics.143.1098}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:04:50 EDT (16 lines)

Liz.

You know what - you really don't do much to diminish the perception
that you aren't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

You will do anything to win an argument.  You will lie. You will deny
reality.  You will brow-beat, demean, and belittle.

Pewople see this.  They see how the TRUTH of something means nothing
to you - only that you never back down.  It really seems that in your
mind if you never admit defeat, then you are undefeatable.

That's just lunacy, and people see that.   Just FYI - I thought you'd
like to know that.

http://rightwingnews.com/top-news/the-50-most-popular-conservative-websites/

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{Politics.143.1099}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:06:06 EDT (4 lines)

Steve - let's say that you're right - have the conservatives ever even
come close to that?

Exactly.

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{Politics.143.1100}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:07:44 EDT (1 line)

Which ones of those are run by the Koch brothers Ken?

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{Politics.143.1101}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:09:10 EDT (3 lines)

The ones who get their talking points from koch-funded 'think tanks'.

I'm surprised you haven;t figured that out yet - being so smart and all.

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{Politics.143.1102}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:11:21 EDT (1 line)

Which ones Ken?  Name them.

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{Politics.143.1103}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:19:05 EDT (12 lines)

Liz, Liz, Liz - I realize this all flies right over your head, but
there is a little more to it than 'who pays who'.  It's subtle -
that's why you fall for it.

The think tanks make it up.   Conservative media disseminates it.
Drones like you put it in the face of those who are uninterested -
like me and everyone else.

You see it as your sacred duty - which makes OTHER PEOPLE tons of money.

They would thank you for your service, but they know you wouldn't
respect that.   And round and round it goes.

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{Politics.143.1104}: Elizabeth Costello {lizcostello} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:38:43 EDT (3 lines)

Well name them.  Since you know all about them, that should be easy.
You are the one who asserted it was true.  Surely you had evidence
before you said that.

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{Politics.143.1105}: Senator Lampoon {yesdeer} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 19:02:29 EDT (HTML)

Ken likes to troll.

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{Politics.143.1106}: Ken {Kioma} Sat, 18 Apr 2015 21:44:13 EDT (2 lines)
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