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{Wheels.5.3545}: Jil {rabbit} Sat, 19 Sep 2015 08:32:13 CDT (1 line)
I saw that today. Ouch!
{Wheels.5.3546}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:35:16 CDT (12 lines)
So, it sounds like the models affected were the ones that used the NOx trap to clean up emissions vs using urea-injection. I take it that a NOx trap is less expensive to maintain and manufacture over the life of the vehicle than urea-injection. The question is if there's even any way for VW to make this right with current owners at all. I've been chatting with a couple current owners and neither is sure they'd even be willing to trust retro-fitted urea-injection system if that's the only way to meet emissions standards since those cars weren't designed with that system in the first place...
{Wheels.5.3547}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:47:02 CDT (2 lines)
The recall affects 2015 and 2016 vehicles too, and they use urea. I forget what year they made the change.
{Wheels.5.3548}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:20:54 CDT (1 line)
Interesting!
{Wheels.5.3549}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:58:23 CDT (4 lines)
From what I'm seeing, while some 2015-2016 models used the 2.0L w/ urea injection, they were still selling 2.0L models without. It looks like they hadn't completely eliminated the NOx trap models in their line-up.
{Wheels.5.3550}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:07:52 CDT (1 line)
I know the urea is based on engine size.
{Wheels.5.3551}: Doug White {dwhite} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:17:34 CDT (4 lines)
It's a pretty clever hack, I'll grant VW that much. Heh. Compared to all the tractor-trailers that are absolutely noxious, and how rare diesel passenger vehicles are in the US, I am not very outraged.
{Wheels.5.3552}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:19:53 CDT (6 lines)
Someone else made that point elsewhere, too. In a sweet bit of irony, the Feds recently came out against allowing hobbyists and others from reprogramming ECUs and the like about a month ago claiming it could have negative impacts on emissions. Then this happens. Ha!
{Wheels.5.3553}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:23:49 CDT (7 lines)
I think the outrage is moreso that VW has essentially lied to consumers that the non-urea injection TDIs were clean enough to meet EPA regulations. People were proud to drive TDIs over traditional gas cars and now they're being made fools of. Personally, I think depending on your driving habits, diesels may still be a better option than gas.
{Wheels.5.3554}: Jil {rabbit} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:33:03 CDT (4 lines)
I have to admit that I still love diesels. What's troubling here is the outright lying. And yes, I am also impressed with the hack.
{Wheels.5.3555}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:27:01 CDT (9 lines)
"Outside the laboratory, the ICCT tested a Volkswagen Jetta TDI that spewed 15 to 35 times the EPAs nitrogen oxygen (NOx) emission limit. Passat models that were equipped with urea aftertreatment still broke the limits by 5 to 20 times the maximum allowed by law." "http://bestride.com/blog/vw-and-audi-tdi-owners-your-guide-to-volkswagens-tdi-crisis/24723/" This is getting worse by the day. Had no idea that even urea-injection cars were exceeding EPA limits.
{Wheels.5.3556}: Doug White {dwhite} Wed, 23 Sep 2015 10:24:56 CDT (1 line)
Maybe VW can concoct for me a "legal" two-stroke modern sport bike, LOL.
{Wheels.5.3557}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:59:00 CDT (3 lines)
Not a surprise, really, but Winterkorn is officially out. "http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/09/volkswagen-ceo-resigns-amid-emissions-test-cheating-scandal/"
{Wheels.5.3558}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Wed, 23 Sep 2015 12:00:20 CDT (2 lines)
I'd read elsewhere that his term was up for re-election later this month anyway.
{Wheels.5.3559}: Doug White {dwhite} Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:15:20 CDT (1 line)
Imagine if all corporate CEOs faced regular elections...
{Wheels.5.3560}: Jil {rabbit} Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:59:13 CDT (2 lines)
But first news - yet unconfirmed - is that he takes with him a $60 million golden parachute ...
{Wheels.5.3561}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:02:01 CDT (2 lines)
Wall Street Journal is reporting that Porsche head Muller to be named as the replacement, too.
{Wheels.5.3562}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Tue, 06 Oct 2015 18:10:13 CDT (4 lines)
A Range Rover Evoque convertible. I lay the blame squarely at Nissan's feet. They started it with that Murano convertible monstrosity. "http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/06/range-rover-evoque-convertible-off-road-video/"
{Wheels.5.3563}: Jil {rabbit} Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:33:24 CDT (2 lines)
The concept convertible made the rounds of the auto shows a few years ago.
{Wheels.5.3564}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:45:18 CDT (7 lines)
Did you get to see the concept in-person? What did you think of it "in the flesh" if you did? BTW, Jil, are you familiar with these boutique trucks? It looks like something that you might appreciate. "http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/07/legacy-classic-power-wagon-first-drive-review/"
{Wheels.5.3565}: Jil {rabbit} Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:27:31 CDT (6 lines)
I thought it looked okay in person. Mind you, I didn't think the Murano convertible was bad at all. I do know those trucks. The company has a display at the SEMA show each year and I drool over them. I've always wanted a Power Wagon, and they do a beautiful job, but man they cost the earth.
{Wheels.5.3566}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:12:03 CDT (4 lines)
When driving home isn't enough: "http://jilmcintosh.typepad.com/jil/2016/03/andrew-comrie-picard- driving-to-the-end-of-the-world.html"
{Wheels.5.3567}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:06:32 CDT (3 lines)
Thanks for the great story, Jil. Impressed that they did it with a stock Jeep, too. Is their plan to do the pole-to-pole with a stock vehicle, too? Or will they be using something more purpose-built?
{Wheels.5.3568}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:37:43 CDT (3 lines)
Just reading through your review of the '16 Civic and happy to read that Honda did away with that awful dual-tier instrument cluster design. About time!
{Wheels.5.3569}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:04:21 CDT (3 lines)
Yes, now only if they'd lose that awful touch-screen stereo. Right now the plan is to go pole-to-pole in a stock Jeep.
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