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{Wheels.5.3545}: Jil {rabbit} Sat, 19 Sep 2015 08:32:13 CDT (1 line)

I saw that today. Ouch!

{Wheels.5.3546}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:35:16 CDT (12 lines)

So, it sounds like the models affected were the ones that used the NOx
trap to clean up emissions vs using urea-injection. I take it that a
NOx trap is less expensive to maintain and manufacture over the life
of the vehicle than urea-injection.

The question is if there's even any way for VW to make this right with
current owners at all.

I've been chatting with a couple current owners and neither is sure
they'd even be willing to trust retro-fitted urea-injection system if
that's the only way to meet emissions standards since those cars
weren't designed with that system in the first place...

{Wheels.5.3547}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:47:02 CDT (2 lines)

The recall affects 2015 and 2016 vehicles too, and they use urea. I
forget what year they made the change.

{Wheels.5.3548}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:20:54 CDT (1 line)

Interesting!

{Wheels.5.3549}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:58:23 CDT (4 lines)

From what I'm seeing, while some 2015-2016 models used the 2.0L w/
urea injection, they were still selling 2.0L models without. It looks
like they hadn't completely eliminated the NOx trap models in their
line-up.

{Wheels.5.3550}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:07:52 CDT (1 line)

I know the urea is based on engine size.

{Wheels.5.3551}: Doug White {dwhite} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:17:34 CDT (4 lines)

It's a pretty clever hack, I'll grant VW that much.  Heh.

Compared to all the tractor-trailers that are absolutely noxious, and how
rare diesel passenger vehicles are in the US, I am not very outraged.

{Wheels.5.3552}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:19:53 CDT (6 lines)

Someone else made that point elsewhere, too.

In a sweet bit of irony, the Feds recently came out against allowing
hobbyists and others from reprogramming ECUs and the like about a
month ago claiming it could have negative impacts on emissions. Then
this happens. Ha!

{Wheels.5.3553}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:23:49 CDT (7 lines)

I think the outrage is moreso that VW has essentially lied to
consumers that the non-urea injection TDIs were clean enough to meet
EPA regulations. People were proud to drive TDIs over traditional gas
cars and now they're being made fools of.

Personally, I think depending on your driving habits, diesels may
still be a better option than gas.

{Wheels.5.3554}: Jil {rabbit} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:33:03 CDT (4 lines)

I have to admit that I still love diesels. What's troubling here is
the outright lying.

And yes, I am also impressed with the hack.

{Wheels.5.3555}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:27:01 CDT (9 lines)

"Outside the laboratory, the ICCT tested a Volkswagen Jetta TDI that
spewed 15 to 35 times the EPA’s nitrogen oxygen (NOx) emission limit.
Passat models that were equipped with urea aftertreatment still broke
the limits by 5 to 20 times the maximum allowed by law."

"http://bestride.com/blog/vw-and-audi-tdi-owners-your-guide-to-volkswagens-tdi-crisis/24723/"

This is getting worse by the day. Had no idea that even urea-injection
cars were exceeding EPA limits.

{Wheels.5.3556}: Doug White {dwhite} Wed, 23 Sep 2015 10:24:56 CDT (1 line)

Maybe VW can concoct for me a "legal" two-stroke modern sport bike, LOL.

{Wheels.5.3557}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:59:00 CDT (3 lines)

Not a surprise, really, but Winterkorn is officially out.

"http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/09/volkswagen-ceo-resigns-amid-emissions-test-cheating-scandal/"

{Wheels.5.3558}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Wed, 23 Sep 2015 12:00:20 CDT (2 lines)

I'd read elsewhere that his term was up for re-election later this
month anyway.

{Wheels.5.3559}: Doug White {dwhite} Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:15:20 CDT (1 line)

Imagine if all corporate CEOs faced regular elections...

{Wheels.5.3560}: Jil {rabbit} Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:59:13 CDT (2 lines)

But first news - yet unconfirmed - is that he takes with him a $60
million golden parachute ...

{Wheels.5.3561}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:02:01 CDT (2 lines)

Wall Street Journal is reporting that Porsche head Muller to be named
as the replacement, too.

{Wheels.5.3562}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Tue, 06 Oct 2015 18:10:13 CDT (4 lines)

A Range Rover Evoque convertible. I lay the blame squarely at Nissan's
feet. They started it with that Murano convertible monstrosity.

"http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/06/range-rover-evoque-convertible-off-road-video/"

{Wheels.5.3563}: Jil {rabbit} Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:33:24 CDT (2 lines)

The concept convertible made the rounds of the auto shows a few years
ago.

{Wheels.5.3564}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:45:18 CDT (7 lines)

Did you get to see the concept in-person? What did you think of it "in
the flesh" if you did?

BTW, Jil, are you familiar with these boutique trucks? It looks like
something that you might appreciate.

"http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/07/legacy-classic-power-wagon-first-drive-review/"

{Wheels.5.3565}: Jil {rabbit} Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:27:31 CDT (6 lines)

I thought it looked okay in person. Mind you, I didn't think the
Murano convertible was bad at all.

I do know those trucks. The company has a display at the SEMA show
each year and I drool over them. I've always wanted a Power Wagon,
and they do a beautiful job, but man they cost the earth.

{Wheels.5.3566}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:12:03 CDT (4 lines)

When driving home isn't enough:

"http://jilmcintosh.typepad.com/jil/2016/03/andrew-comrie-picard-
driving-to-the-end-of-the-world.html"

{Wheels.5.3567}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:06:32 CDT (3 lines)

Thanks for the great story, Jil. Impressed that they did it with a
stock Jeep, too. Is their plan to do the pole-to-pole with a stock
vehicle, too? Or will they be using something more purpose-built?

{Wheels.5.3568}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:37:43 CDT (3 lines)

Just reading through your review of the '16 Civic and happy to read
that Honda did away with that awful dual-tier instrument cluster
design. About time!

{Wheels.5.3569}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:04:21 CDT (3 lines)

Yes, now only if they'd lose that awful touch-screen stereo.

Right now the plan is to go pole-to-pole in a stock Jeep.

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