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Coming Soon: Galleries subforum


{Photography.8.22}: Abilandeth {abilandeth} Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:47:31 CDT (4 lines)

There are plenty of areas on the net which cater to vacation pix and
pix of my kitten/pooch/roach, etc.  If it's to be a gallery let's have
something at least gallery-like.  Does not mean they should be
world-class prize winning photos, just really good photos.


{Photography.8.23}: Doug White {dwhite} Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:51:55 CDT (2 lines)

How would you do that, have photos "juried" before being posted to a


{Photography.8.24}: Abilandeth {abilandeth} Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:59:03 CDT (4 lines)

We ourselves would think "category for Galleries".  Would this pic do
for the "regular" pix sites, or would it do for the Utne Gallery?  We
would "jury" ourselves.  I'm sure it will all be sorted out well in
the end.


{Photography.8.25}: Julian Mackler {jmackler} Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:32:04 CDT (3 lines)

i'd like to put some pictures online with the site, but don't see any sumission
forms or anything of that genre...can someone point me in the right direction?


{Photography.8.26}: Suzanne Griffith {sggriffith} Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:55:07 CDT (1 line)

Welcome, Julian! You can get instructions in Topic 12 {12.2-}.


{Photography.8.27}: Scott Butki {scoop} Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:51:30 CDT (7 lines)

I like the subforum idea. I'd participate in either a themed topic
or with one of my own.

Though first I have to figure out how to post pictures in this forum
that are not stored on other sites, just on my web page.

can someone point me to the topic that explains that?


{Photography.8.28}: Suzanne Griffith {sggriffith} Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:00:20 CDT (1 line)

Can't you go back one post?


{Photography.8.29}: Scott Butki {scoop} Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:32:59 CDT (1 line)

sorry, Suzanne. I didnt see your post somehow. my apologies.


{Photography.8.30}: Suzanne Griffith {sggriffith} Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:44:36 CDT (1 line)

Sorry I was snippy. Enjoy!


{Photography.8.31}: Scott Butki {scoop} Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:38:56 CDT (5 lines)

Tis ok. I think i was so excited about the gallery idea I just started
my response without reading everything.
In another community I'm in I've been posting a bunch of pictures and
getting feedback.
Ok, i'm gonna go lurk before i post more.


{Photography.8.32}: Amanda Peck {amanda615} Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:40:14 CDT (5 lines)

You could do that unless, like some of us, you only learn from YOUR
OWN experience, not other peoples.

(That was a joke where I used to work, but I'm afraid that all of us
made every mistake in the book at least once.O)


{Photography.8.33}: Mapei {mapei} Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:09:38 CDT (4 lines)

Kai - or others - what is the current status of a galleries
subforum?  Do we anticipate having one?  Are there issues to work out
that we should discuss here, or are they of a nature that they need
to be dealt with offline?


{Photography.8.34}: Mapei {mapei} Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:45:15 CDT (1 line)

I'll interpret that response as "don't hold your breath."  ;)


{Photography.8.35}: Scott Butki {scoop} Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:57:32 CDT (1 line)

Not neccesarily.


{Photography.8.36}: Rich Mason {richpix} Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:17:24 CDT (1 line)

I'm turning blue here...


{Photography.8.37}: T.J. McGovern {tj2} Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:30:55 CST (51 lines)

I hate to lurk. I like to just jump in a make an ass of myself.
You'll learn to love that, or they'll throw me off the forum and
you'll be forever deprived of my wit. Either way you lose.

Here's the thing:

>Posterize (reducing the number of colors), resizing the picture to
fewer pixels, are two ways to lower the size.<

C'mon! Do you know how much time I spend trying to "Optomize, not
Posterize?" AARRGGHH! Posterization is uglification. No two ways
about it.

>I've had reasonable
luck recently, and it seems counterintuitive, with putting some sort
of paint effect in as a layer, making it semi-transparent, and then
flattening the layers.<

I don't know. what this means. I know effects; I know semi-
transparent; I know flattening. I don't know how this applies.

>Cropping works too.  ;-)<

Noting the wink, I say this: Before I post, I crop (or not)
depending on how I want the picture to look. File size never enters
into the equation. If my crop doesn't fit your modem, then you don't
get to see what I did. Nyah nyah.

>Some editing programs--including something in the latest Windows--
offer you the option of making pictures smaller in order to put them
on the web.<

Yeah, but what are the options? GIF (bad), JPEG (better, depending)
JPEG2 (Good enough, if your browser does that). Do you get to
choose? I can pick the level of compression in most editiing
programs,  but does this Windows thing allow that? Microsoft is not
a picture oriented corp. Their graphic software is decidedly
consumer oriented (read: gargbage.).

>But I truly do hate JPEGged to death.<

Right. It's ugly. If you take pictures to share your passion, or to
make money, or to express your free will, JPEG limits all of that.
If you are forced to submit to the 56K modem standard, your art WILL
suffer, regardless of its purpose. Let's not set limits.

>I'd love themes.<

Me too.


{Photography.8.38}: T.J. McGovern {tj2} Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:32:22 CST (1 line)

Optimize. I do too knwo hos to spellidt.


{Photography.8.39}: Suzanne Griffith {sggriffith} Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:38:51 CST (6 lines)

I'm pretty new at this, and I'm using PaintShopPro on my PC.

I have a choice of optimizing with JPG, GIF, or PNG, and I don't
know what PNG is, so I guess I have enough options ;-)

Thanks for explaining what posterizing does.


{Photography.8.40}: T.J. McGovern {tj2} Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:05:34 CST (22 lines)

JPEG is currently the file type of choice for most photographic
applications for the Web. It allows you to use all the colors
available for better reproduction. It is "lossy" compression,
however, which means that the more compression you use (to get the
file size smaller) or the more times you re-save an image, the more
the image is degraded.

Gif is 8-bit, or indexed color. This means that you are limited to
256 colors in an image. It also means that Gif files are very small.
This is good for icons and other vector art especially, such as is
utilized on most web pages. They load faster than JPEGs.

PNG is a single image format. By that I mean it is not intended for
animation, such as you can do with GIF. It utilizes more colors, but
does not support transparency. I don't know how widely supported it

I don't know much about JPEG 2000 or JPEG2 except that it is not
lossy, (or as lossy, not sure which) like JPEG, but there are
doubtless many places on the Web to read about it.



{Photography.8.41}: Amanda Peck {amanda615} Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:28:05 CST (10 lines)

PNG, highly regarded when it first came out, but not, as far as I can
tell, very accepted, allows you to lower the number of colors
drastically, with or without dithering.

Not too many people I know can read it, and unless you do a LOT of
color reduction--like posterization, with or without dithering, it
doesn't really reduce file size enough to do much good.  I
occasionally use it--export as a .png, open it back up, and change it
to a .jpg--did with a picture of Coyote's costume--although I kept on
changing it after that so it's not really a good example.


{Photography.8.42}: file size compression examples {amanda615} Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:47:15 CST (HTML)


{Photography.8.43}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:58:53 CST (5 lines)

I hate to complain but...

When I see that there are posts in here I think we are talking about
the subforums again.  Maybe this discussion belongs in a different


{Photography.8.44}: {coyote} Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:25:32 CDT (0 lines)
{erased by coyote Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:32:41 CDT}


{Photography.8.45}: Coyote {coyote} Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:36:45 CDT (2 lines)

I hope y'all didn't get too excited about seeing a posting here. I was
just using this topic to experiment with color themes.


{Photography.8.46}: Diane Hamilton {dianeh} Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:50:30 CDT (2 lines)

Hey, this is the only forum on my hotlist that gets any posts at all


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