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{Wheels.12.2920}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:23:11 CDT (2 lines)

In case you are seriously considering a trade-in to a 2015,
"http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/16/ford-offering-10000-incentives-f150/"

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{Wheels.12.2921}: {jsk} Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:25:22 CDT (0 lines)
{erased by jsk Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:25:32 CDT}

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{Wheels.12.2922}: Joseph Kang {jsk} Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:25:47 CDT (5 lines)

Sorry, I read through that link and it wasn't clear where more details
on the F150 offers were. You can find them at
"http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/incentives/"

Plug in your zip code to get offers for your location.

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{Wheels.12.2923}: Ford F150 {fvehafric} Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:39:00 CDT (5 lines)

Thanks. It looks like the offers are for the big full on luxury
trucks, which, if the discount was big enough I might consider. I go
more for basic trucks, since I actually spend a lot of time on gravel
roads, and getting scratched by overhanging branches and getting in
and out them with muddy boots covered with fish stink.

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{Wheels.12.2924}: Jil {rabbit} Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:50:17 CDT (4 lines)

The Chevrolet Silverado drives better, but the Ford is still well-
done. The interior could be better but it's still good. I have the
2.7-litre EcoBoost V6. Great on gas when you're light on the pedal,
but it's thirsty when you're towing.

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{Wheels.12.2925}: Ford F150 {fvehafric} Thu, 16 Jul 2015 22:00:56 CDT (2 lines)

I wondered about that. I have the 3.7 litre, non ecoboost. Gets decent
milage and not a huge drop off when towing.

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{Wheels.12.2926}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 17 Jul 2015 07:27:52 CDT (19 lines)

Any turbo's like that. When you're just cruising, it's essentially a
naturally-aspirated engine. But when you put your foot into it,
you're sending in more air and, of course, more fuel.

I was a judge on an event where we pitted the trucks against each
other in driving, towing and hauling, and had electronic fuel
calculators on them. I wish I could find my notes on it, but I recall
the EcoBoost getting terrible mileage when it towed.

Of course, it's all big-picture. Don't buy the EcoBoost if you're
towing all the time. But if you only go out once or twice a year with
the camper, it might be a better choice overall.

I love that 3.7-litre, which Ford doesn't offer anymore (it's now a
3.5-litre non-boost). One year we gave it the award. It seldom showed
up in the press vehicles so I'd never driven it before. I couldn't
get over how nice it was, and it was basically the bottom-line,
entry-level engine. If I'd been buying an F-150 that would have been
my choice, hands-down.

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{Wheels.12.2927}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 17 Jul 2015 07:36:19 CDT (19 lines)

Here are my stories so far on the F-150. Keep in mind that these are
launches, where I don't drive the truck for very long. This is the
first time I've had it for a week and that story is yet to come, but
so far, my impressions on it really haven't changed.

"http://jilmcintosh.typepad.com/jil/2014/10/first-drive-2015-ford-f-
150.html"

"http://jilmcintosh.typepad.com/jil/2014/10/is-the-2015-ford-f-150-
the-best-one-yet.html"

"http://jilmcintosh.typepad.com/jil/2014/11/whats-the-top-new-
truk.html"

"http://jilmcintosh.typepad.com/jil/2015/03/winter-driving-in-the-
2015-ford-f-150.html"

Here's the test where I judged. Not sure how good the website is for
info, but ... wwww.CanadianTruckKingChallenge.ca

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{Wheels.12.2928}: Ford F150 {fvehafric} Fri, 17 Jul 2015 10:11:00 CDT (1 line)

Thanks Jil. I appreciate it.

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{Wheels.12.2929}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 17 Jul 2015 11:08:30 CDT (4 lines)

Even now, I'd probably go for the 3.5 rather than the EcoBoost.
Cheaper to buy, I believe, and you don't get that thirst when you
need power. Plus I'm still convinced a naturally-aspirated engine
will have fewer issues down the road.

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{Wheels.12.2930}: Ford F150 {fvehafric} Fri, 17 Jul 2015 11:59:58 CDT (3 lines)

Yeah, I have always wondered about the effects of wear and tear when
you are pushing all that air and fuel through a small engine. I'm old
school enough to still want to equate cubic inches with power...

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{Wheels.12.2931}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 17 Jul 2015 14:01:17 CDT (7 lines)

They've really beefed up the 2.7, so it should be able to take the
punishment, but I've still heard too many horror stories about older
turbos going south.

The engine has start/stop on it, as well, which shuts it off when
you're idling at a light. You can turn it off, but then it comes back
on by default each time you turn the key.

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{Wheels.12.2932}: Alex {alex} Sun, 19 Jul 2015 14:43:18 CDT (HTML)

Back in my gearhead days, engines had distributors. A few years ago, my Vibe hit 100,000 miles, and I told my mechanic to change the plugs, and while he's at it, may as well change the plug wires and distributor cap. He looked at me like I was an idiot and told me that each cylinder had its own coil sitting right on top of the plug. I had no idea. Anyhow, it has left me with a burning question: without a distributor, how does the ignition get its timing info off the crankshaft?

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{Wheels.12.2933}: Jil {rabbit} Sun, 19 Jul 2015 15:19:08 CDT (3 lines)

It's all handled electronically. There's a sensor on the crankshaft -
logically named the crankshaft sensor - that determines the crank's
position and then translates that for the control module.

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{Wheels.12.2934}: Alex {alex} Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:22:22 CDT (HTML)

Thanks! Makes sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankshaft_position_sensor

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{Wheels.12.2935}: Jil {rabbit} Sun, 19 Jul 2015 19:41:22 CDT (1 line)

But you can't use a crank sensor for a pencil holder, alas.

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{Wheels.12.2936}: Glen Marks {wotan} Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:21:55 CDT (7 lines)

EPA fuel standards (recent debate):

"http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/mar/21/epas-fuel-standards-will-cause-
highway-d/?newswatch"

"http://www.vindy.com/news/2016/mar/21/drivers-will-realize-big-
savings-with-ne/?newswatch"

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{Wheels.12.2937}: Glen Marks {wotan} Tue, 22 Mar 2016 04:22:11 CDT (1 line)

Which side are you on?

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{Wheels.12.2938}: Jil {rabbit} Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:59:18 CDT (1 line)

Which are you

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{Wheels.12.2939}: Glen Marks {wotan} Thu, 09 Jun 2016 03:58:30 CDT (7 lines)

Takata air bags (recent debate):

"http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/opinion/4047522-millions-are-
danger-because-federal-safety-officials-wont-act-dangerous-air-bags"

"http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/opinion/4047524-defusing-air-bags-
would-actually-cause-traffic-deaths-spike"

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