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Buying new car

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{Wheels.26.107}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:37:51 CDT (1 line)

That's the regular six-speed automatic.

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{Wheels.26.108}: Bianca R. {lily1} Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:50:58 CDT (13 lines)

I'm hoping that is the more reliable version?

I guess I disagree with the statement way above about used Audis
having such a high residual that they aren't much of a bargain.  New,
a similarly equipped 2017 or 2018 version would be around $45,000.
From 45 down to 28 seems a substantial savings to me.

Funny I've got no qualms buying a used Audi from another maker's
dealer.  No anti-German bias at all.  I've got nothing against the
cars as such, just don't want my money going to the parent company
which collaborated with the Nazis all those years ago.  Buying it
second-hand means my money is going to the local dealer, and I've got
no problem at all with that.

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{Wheels.26.109}: Bianca R. {lily1} Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:57:00 CDT (3 lines)

In fact the price difference is even more.  Per Audi's site, a new A3
Premium Plus Cabriolet would be just shy of $49,000.  List price to
list price, that's a savings of $21,000.  That's definitely big to me.

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{Wheels.26.110}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:01:16 CDT (14 lines)

I'm not sure about the reliability, but the dual-clutch can sometimes
exhibit the slight stumble that Lemon Aid mentioned. It's not a big
deal, and it doesn't happen all the time (mostly it's on sharp
downshift), but some people don't like it.

A dual-clutch transmissions has two sets of gears, each with its own
clutch. In simplest terms, as soon as one gear is engaged, the next
one gets ready. The shifts are extremely fast, which makes it smoother
and sportier, and also saves a tiny bit of fuel.

I get that everyone has a reason for what they buy and it's not always
logical, but you have a Japanese car -- what about Pearl Harbor? And
when you get your Audi repaired, you're buying parts made by the
parent company and giving them money...

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{Wheels.26.111}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:02:40 CDT (3 lines)

The residual value is always subjective. I think the book points out
that it's less of a difference than if you were looking at a
mainstream model.

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{Wheels.26.112}: Bianca R. {lily1} Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:07:34 CDT (18 lines)

I know, I freely admit logic has very little to do with it.  Even my
husband laughs at me.  My step-dad was furious at me (although he
never said so to my face) when I bought my first Nissan.

He was a big Ford guy, owned a Maverick when he married my mom, and
strongly encouraged me to buy a used Pinto when I graduated from
college, which I did, not knowing any better.

Worst automotive decision I ever made.  Also last time I took car
advice from him.

You slipped.  Yes, maybe so.  I could buy a new Mazda C-5 for that,
and maybe I might anyway.

Thing is I smile when thinking about getting into a newer convertible,
and I basically think "meh" when picturing myself in an SUV or CUV.
So...we will see.  Maybe I'll just keep the Z running as long as
possible.

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{Wheels.26.113}: Jil {rabbit} Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:14:46 CDT (5 lines)

Well, one thing about it is it's the devil you know, versus the one
you don't, especially with a used vehicle.

The big thing is how it was maintained. Don't buy anything unless the
dealer or the seller can provide you with proof of scheduled maintenance.

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{Wheels.26.114}: Bianca R. {lily1} Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:28:40 CDT (2 lines)

Agreed.  I keep good notes on our cars for just that reason, and save
all major receipts.

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{Wheels.26.115}: Bianca R. {lily1} Tue, 03 Apr 2018 16:58:54 CDT (5 lines)

Did a little test-driving today:  Subaru Outback, loaded with everything.
I liked it.  Seats not quite as comfortable as Volvo seats, but pretty
good.  The infotainment stuff was pretty amazing.

I'm realizing how truly outdated my Z is.

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{Wheels.26.116}: Bianca R. {lily1} Tue, 03 Apr 2018 17:03:10 CDT (9 lines)

Also visited the Volvo dealer again.  Amazingly, the dog crate fit in the
back of the XC40 with seats up.  Not an inch to spare, but as the salesman
said, "it will never slide around in there!"

Will go back tomorrow for test drives of the 40 and the XC60. Still not
sure which size I would really prefer and find easy to love with for the
long term.

Will test drive the Mazda, as well.

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{Wheels.26.117}: Bianca R. {lily1} Tue, 03 Apr 2018 17:03:44 CDT (1 line)

"Easy to live with."  Though I hope I love it, too.  ;-)

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{Wheels.26.118}: Jil {rabbit} Tue, 03 Apr 2018 18:23:14 CDT (2 lines)

Haven't driven the XC40, but I do like the XC60. However, if you don't
need the size, why pay the price?

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{Wheels.26.119}: Bianca R. {lily1} Tue, 03 Apr 2018 18:30:26 CDT (7 lines)

Agreed.  Part of the reason I keep going around in circles re size is the
thought that this car might leap-frog our current V70, in other words that
we might go to one car within the next five years.  If P ever really truly
retires, then we could have just one car and in that case, we would need a
larger one for our semi-annual migrations to the beach and back.

If I were only thinking of myself, then I'd get another convertible.

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{Wheels.26.120}: Jil {rabbit} Wed, 04 Apr 2018 06:35:07 CDT (1 line)

Might be better to go bigger, then, and you're done.

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{Wheels.26.121}: Bianca R. {lily1} Thu, 05 Apr 2018 15:44:31 CDT (7 lines)

Just drove the XC40 and the XC60.  Despite the XC60 being longer by
ten inches, the inside cargo area is virtually identical.  THe 40 is
4" narrower, but the length behind the seats and the length with seats
down is virtually identical - 36" for the first and about 62 or 63"
for the second measurement.

Falling in love with the 40.  Maybe, maybe, maybe...

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{Wheels.26.122}: Jil {rabbit} Thu, 05 Apr 2018 15:50:25 CDT (1 line)

Passion is important!

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{Wheels.26.123}: Bianca R. {lily1} Thu, 05 Apr 2018 16:35:32 CDT (26 lines)

It was really nice.  I liked it a LOT more than the XC60 when I drove
the two. More comfortable for me to be in a somewhat smaller car, for
ease of parking mainly (and I did practice that - drove through my old
neighborhood and did a parallel  park), also driving through city
streets I'd just rather be in something smaller without being tiny,
and that's how I felt.

It was plenty zippy on the highway, too.  Was a little bit clunkier in
the start/stop function as compared to the 60, which was
extraordinarily smooth.  So we turned the stop/start thing off.

One weirdness:  to shift from D to R, you have to move the shifter
twice, like a double-tap, and you can't shift into P - you have to
press a button for that.  I got used to it just driving around the old
(quiet) neighborhood, but it seemed strange.  I guess every car has
its quirks.

I wouldn't buy that particular one because it wasn't a color I would
want (black body, white roof - looks like a European police car) but I
loved driving it.

Panoramic sunroof was not, as I had thought, a sunroof that will open
all the way.  It just lets in a lot of light, but the opening itself
is the same as any other sunroof.  So not really a semi-convertible,
as I had kind of thought it would be.  Silly me, I guess - I had
thought it would be an extra-long opening, but it wasn't.

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{Wheels.26.124}: Bianca R. {lily1} Thu, 05 Apr 2018 16:37:02 CDT (2 lines)

But then I drove home in the Z, top down, sunny, pleasant day.  Loved
that, too.  Decisions, decisions!

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{Wheels.26.125}: Jil {rabbit} Thu, 05 Apr 2018 19:18:04 CDT (16 lines)

<<One weirdness:  to shift from D to R, you have to move the shifter
twice, like a double-tap, and you can't shift into P - you have to
press a button for that.><

I detest those electronic shifters. Answer to a question that no one
asked. They're horrible, dumb, and should be consigned to the dustbin.

If memory serves, there is a way to go from Drive to Reverse without
hitting it twice. I forget exactly what it is. You either pull the
shifter slightly while moving it, or you hold it longer.

No panoramic glass sunroof opens all the way. It couldn't -- there's
no place for all of the glass to go. The only way it could is if it
was made of individual panes that stack on top of each other.
Automakers have done that in the past, but it's not a good idea. Too
complex, too heavy, and too much potential for leaks.

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{Wheels.26.126}: Bianca R. {lily1} Thu, 05 Apr 2018 20:01:26 CDT (5 lines)

Yes, obviously.  I have no idea why I was thinking that.

Do you think that electronic shifter is likely to cause problems, or
not last for the long term?  I'm hoping to get at least 10 years out
of this car, if not more, health and changing needs permitting.

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{Wheels.26.127}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 06 Apr 2018 05:41:52 CDT (6 lines)

I doubt it. This type is commonly called that, but all cars have
electronic shifters now; they're not connected to the transmission by
cables. This is just a dumb type of lever.

You will get used to it. My complaint with the automakers is that you
shouldn't have to.

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{Wheels.26.128}: Bianca R. {lily1} Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:34:13 CDT (2 lines)

By "I doubt it," do you mean you doubt it will last that long, or you
doubt it will cause problems?

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{Wheels.26.129}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:21:54 CDT (1 line)

I doubt it'll cause problems. These have been around for a while.

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{Wheels.26.130}: Bianca R. {lily1} Sat, 14 Apr 2018 21:11:51 CDT (9 lines)

I may be getting over my Audi aversion.  Test drove a CPO 2015 Audi A5
Cabriolet today.

Wow.  Makes everything else I drove look boring.  The one I drove, it
turned out, did not have NAV, blind side info system, or backup camera, so
I won't buy it, bit what a pleasure to drive.

There is one configured just as I want it in PA, 147 miles away.  Might be
doing a road trip here...

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{Wheels.26.131}: Jil {rabbit} Sun, 15 Apr 2018 06:00:56 CDT (1 line)

They are indeed lovely cars.

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