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The 20 Year Car

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{Wheels.17.1}: {michael33} Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:52:14 EDT (0 lines)
{erased by michael33 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:57:53 EDT}

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{Wheels.17.2}: Kristie Helms {kristie} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:53:44 EDT (9 lines)

HA!

I understand Saabs have a really long life span too. I know I've seen
them from the early 80s still driving around Boston. And between the
ski trips to Vermont and Boston drivers in general... they're driven
*hard* here.

I imagine you could get 30-40 years out of one anywhere else in the
world.

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{Wheels.17.3}: Daniel Hagerty {captainbill} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:42:49 EDT (6 lines)

California's weather is the saving grace for many classic car
enthusiasts, and it has also contributed to the prevalence of older
cars on the roads.

I see A LOT of Early-to-mid-80's Honda Accords and Preludes on the
road here.  I mean LOTS of them.  Civics, too.

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{Wheels.17.4}: {michael33} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:00:59 EDT (0 lines)
{erased by michael33 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:57:55 EDT}

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{Wheels.17.5}: Kristie Helms {kristie} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:11:46 EDT (5 lines)

*makes a mental note*

I've always driven cars in the south and never had to deal with
winter driving until this year. I wondered if washing frequently
would help that rust-factor.

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{Wheels.17.6}: Daniel Hagerty {captainbill} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 15:38:55 EDT (4 lines)

>I like old Volvos, and they are pretty much gone from the roads here.

They're ALL OVER the place in LA.  One of my buddies is an old Volvo
NUT.

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{Wheels.17.7}: Jil {rabbit} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:03:45 EDT (2 lines)

My 20-year car is the Chevrolet Caprice. 1977 through 1992. I
loved 'em. And they were all but bulletproof.

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{Wheels.17.8}: {michael33} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:53:36 EDT (0 lines)
{erased by michael33 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:57:57 EDT}

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{Wheels.17.9}: Kristie Helms {kristie} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 21:43:38 EDT (5 lines)

Thanks Michael. I appreciate that note about what kind of car wash to
get. I've been keeping a little "note to self" file in the back of my
head of all these winter driving things. Braking, driving on ice,
etc. It's good to be able to add maintenance stuff to that file. I'd
like to keep this car as long as absolutely possible.

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{Wheels.17.10}: Michael Cerkowski {michael33} Wed, 24 Apr 2002 22:41:33 EDT (1 line)

   You also want to oil all the hinges (doors, hood, etc) every Fall.

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{Wheels.17.11}: Kristie Helms {kristie} Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:22:35 EDT (1 line)

I should compile all of these things into a new topic maybe.

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{Wheels.17.12}: {michael33} Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:02:33 EDT (0 lines)
{erased by michael33 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:57:59 EDT}

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{Wheels.17.13}: La-Z-Eight Recliner {dkopec} Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:29:45 EDT (3 lines)

My dad could have used your hinge lube advice. He's still driving
a '78 Datsun 210 wagon--just starting to burn a little oil at 278,000
miles. It could have gone to the moon!

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{Wheels.17.14}: {michael33} Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:40:59 EDT (0 lines)
{erased by michael33 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:58:02 EDT}

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{Wheels.17.15}: Jil {rabbit} Fri, 26 Apr 2002 19:16:54 EDT (5 lines)

It doesn't hurt to put oil behind the glass in side-view mirrors,
either. It keeps them from seizing up.

We generally oil anything that has a fastener (except glued ones).
You never know when you'll need to remove a screw from a hose clamp.

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{Wheels.17.16}: Love Tribe {lovetribe} Sun, 06 Oct 2002 04:49:17 EDT (20 lines)

im considering a diesel, but before you all groan and say "there
goes the neighborhood" (:)  you should know that i am very into
biodiesel and griesel.  the main difference between the two is
processing and needing extra equipment.  biodiesel is ready to go,
but takes more processing and more caustic fluids.  griesel takes
less processing and no caustics but requires an extra fuel tank to
get the vehicle warmed up before you switch over tot he griesel,
which is basicall used vegetable oil, while bio-d is a combo of used
v-oil and methanol and then water at the end.

ive heard diesels last a long time.  i think my 20 year car would be
a diesel volvo wagon.  i have a gas 79 and it is so solid, but as
you say, the wiring is a problem.  still, its the safest.

im also considering a ford diesel van for its trucklike abilities
and enclosed space, and i wont feel like a gasshole if i fuel it
with alternatives.

what advice/ can you offer me in these ruminations?  and thank you
in advance :)

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{Wheels.17.17}: attack of the typos...oops {lovetribe} Sun, 06 Oct 2002 04:50:30 EDT (0 lines)


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{Wheels.17.18}: Jil {rabbit} Sun, 06 Oct 2002 08:33:44 EDT (12 lines)

A lot depends on how you drive. I was going to get a diesel when I
bought my Ram pickup, but then I looked more closely at how I would
use it. Diesels are really made to run all day.

My use generally consisted of one 60-mile round trip per week, plus
several short trips for the rest of the time; and in the summer I
hardly drive the truck at all. So a diesel didn't make sense, either
for the extra price (they are expensive) or for the wear-and-tear on
the engine.

If you're driving a lot, they're good. If it's just a go-for-
groceries short-hop vehicle, you're not doing the engine any favors.

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{Wheels.17.19}: Nigel {nigel} Sun, 06 Oct 2002 09:34:59 EDT (HTML)

they are expensive

That's for sure. When I was buying my Dodge Ram 2500 back in '96 the diesel was more than $4000 extra. The V10 would have only been an extra $500. I got the 360V8 and a 5-speed.

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{Wheels.17.20}: {michael33} Sun, 06 Oct 2002 15:11:34 EDT (0 lines)
{erased by michael33 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:58:06 EDT}

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{Wheels.17.21}: {michael33} Wed, 09 Oct 2002 03:33:47 EDT (0 lines)
{erased by michael33 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:58:08 EDT}

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{Wheels.17.22}: United We Drive {lovetribe} Sun, 20 Oct 2002 06:50:08 EDT (10 lines)

i thank you.


ive decided to hold off on vehicle acquisition at this point.  i
bought a geodesic dome instead, a much better purchase because i can
stop renting and get to work on my land.

thats very important info about the diesels wanting to run for long
periods.  i will definately remember that, and the bit about the
volvo/vw 200,000 quirks.

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{Wheels.17.23}: Jil {rabbit} Sun, 20 Oct 2002 09:21:03 EDT (4 lines)

Diesels also have very expensive oil changes, compared to gasoline
cars. If you're running them for long periods it's not as issue, but
if you're using it like a gas engine, it can also be a factor on your
wallet.

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{Wheels.17.24}: {michael33} Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:56:39 EDT (0 lines)
{erased by michael33 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:58:11 EDT}

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{Wheels.17.25}: Silver Cars Are Safer? {thurst} Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:31:18 EST (25 lines)

Heigh-Ho! Silver Cars Are Safer

By Ed Edelson
HealthDay Reporter

THURSDAY, Dec. 18 (HealthDayNews) -- The color of your car might
affect your chance of being injured in a road accident, New Zealand
researchers report.

Silver cars are less likely to be involved in a crash than autos of
other colors, says a report by epidemiologists at the University of
Auckland. Their analysis of statistics from a two-year study of auto
accidents in Auckland also finds "a significant increased risk of a
serious injury" in brown vehicles and a slightly increased risk for
black and green cars.

The report comes in a traditionally semi-serious Christmas issue of
the British Medical Journal that is devoted to studies determinedly
off the beaten track. For example, another study is an analysis of how
elderly and disabled pedestrians are depicted on road traffic signs in
119 countries.

(more)

http://tinyurl.com/2pt53

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